HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
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Jezebel~
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HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
Okay here's the thing I cant choose between the aforementioned types of WF so I would like some insight wats better wats not wat works for PVP or PVE why when how etc etc..TY
efoer- Posts : 91
Join date : 2009-12-18
Age : 32
Location : Australia
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
Ima nub on WF xD
I guess, Cherol and Jez have to answer that^^
I guess, Cherol and Jez have to answer that^^
pkker- Posts : 345
Join date : 2009-05-24
Age : 34
Location : Somewhere in the lab xD
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
efoer wrote:Okay here's the thing I cant choose between the aforementioned types of WF so I would like some insight wats better wats not wat works for PVP or PVE why when how etc etc..TY
1. Go to http://ecatomb.net/skillmy.php
2. At the top, select Skill, Database, PW-MY EN
3. Select WF
4. Look at the skills, then at the bottom select Holy or Dark and see the various adders each gives if you buy skillbooks.
If you don't think you'll be able to afford skillbooks it won't matter as much, then it would only come down to the free Heaven/Hell skills for Vigor and Fury. Heaven skill gives you vigor, Hell skill lets you take vigor from an opponent. The Fury bursts are similar but there's a little difference there too.
I've always heard it said that Hell is more for PVP but I can't really say whether or not that's true, it's somewhat a matter of opinion. It happens all my regular chars (Jez, AdriA and tony) are holy but that's really because I looked at the skills, and generally I just liked holy better, so the best advice I can give is for you to study the skills to decide which you like best.
Jezebel~- Posts : 718
Join date : 2008-11-03
Age : 60
Location : Minnesota (USA)
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
in conclusion holy wf is better for HH & TW while hell wf is better in PVP pk
jenny- Posts : 62
Join date : 2010-01-16
Location : malaysia
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
Jezebel~ wrote:
1. Go to http://ecatomb.net/skillmy.php
2. At the top, select Skill, Database, PW-MY EN
3. Select WF
4. Look at the skills, then at the bottom select Holy or Dark and see the various adders each gives if you buy skillbooks.
Another way on ecatomb is go to skills then to holy/dark that way you can compare what each does for a skill instead of hitting the button 500 times to go back and forth
Baalorn- Posts : 1420
Join date : 2009-07-07
Age : 31
Location : Baator
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
baalorn wrote:Jezebel~ wrote:
1. Go to http://ecatomb.net/skillmy.php
2. At the top, select Skill, Database, PW-MY EN
3. Select WF
4. Look at the skills, then at the bottom select Holy or Dark and see the various adders each gives if you buy skillbooks.
Another way on ecatomb is go to skills then to holy/dark that way you can compare what each does for a skill instead of hitting the button 500 times to go back and forth
I like my way, you do it your way
Jezebel~- Posts : 718
Join date : 2008-11-03
Age : 60
Location : Minnesota (USA)
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thx guys (awesome answer jenny just wat i was thinkin) I tried these site before but though well since I am mainly PVE n e way holy would be awesome especially if equiped with this http://pwcalc.ru/my/?char=8928a3a5252fcee0
but apparently there are minor details that u cant know unless u try them examples: wf pet heal stronger if pure int (proly stronger if holy?) bramble array pure int wf reflects more damage but takes more damage compared to heavy wf who takes less damage but reflects less (hell or heaven might change this somehow or take advantage of it?)
So basically stuff like that is the confusing part the hidden secrets if u will
but apparently there are minor details that u cant know unless u try them examples: wf pet heal stronger if pure int (proly stronger if holy?) bramble array pure int wf reflects more damage but takes more damage compared to heavy wf who takes less damage but reflects less (hell or heaven might change this somehow or take advantage of it?)
So basically stuff like that is the confusing part the hidden secrets if u will
efoer- Posts : 91
Join date : 2009-12-18
Age : 32
Location : Australia
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
Hmm.. I'm a Dark WF with only a few skills, so i can only commented on those skills that I have.
Build : Robe WF
Dark Skill :
Fox change - i like the speed boost. Can catch up with WB in dungeons.
Envenom Parasite - wood defense down for 6 secs, not so bad.
Parasite Nova - chances the mobs will be cursed.
For holy the only skill i like about holy is the one with sharptooth effect. ^^
Build : Robe WF
Dark Skill :
Fox change - i like the speed boost. Can catch up with WB in dungeons.
Envenom Parasite - wood defense down for 6 secs, not so bad.
Parasite Nova - chances the mobs will be cursed.
For holy the only skill i like about holy is the one with sharptooth effect. ^^
Xeryn- Posts : 11
Join date : 2010-01-20
Location : KL, MY
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with sky chapter skill like stilled spell & rainbow parasite make hell WF more deadly
jenny- Posts : 62
Join date : 2010-01-16
Location : malaysia
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Holy WF:
Amp Maim damage increased to 30%
Celerity Wind Walk increases to same speed as Dark but also acts as a purify
Banish Malediction can debuff everyone within 5 meter radius
Basically, you really have to study the holy and dark skills and decide which you like best, both have advantages.
Also as Jenny said, the ISC skills like stilled spell & rainbow parasite are handy, I have both of those on my holy wf and always use rainbow parasite on bosses or elite mobs, and have used the stilled spell a couple times.
Amp Maim damage increased to 30%
Celerity Wind Walk increases to same speed as Dark but also acts as a purify
Banish Malediction can debuff everyone within 5 meter radius
Basically, you really have to study the holy and dark skills and decide which you like best, both have advantages.
Also as Jenny said, the ISC skills like stilled spell & rainbow parasite are handy, I have both of those on my holy wf and always use rainbow parasite on bosses or elite mobs, and have used the stilled spell a couple times.
Jezebel~- Posts : 718
Join date : 2008-11-03
Age : 60
Location : Minnesota (USA)
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
haha.. need do research on both WFs
jenny- Posts : 62
Join date : 2010-01-16
Location : malaysia
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
I have all 3 79 skills on my WF, and all of them i rarely use. Stilled I used at belial and last boss 3-3 before... i rarely go fox form nowadays so i don't use the fox rainbow much, and only on rare occasion when I remember to use it for human rainbow.
I guess main reason why I don't use them coz I cannot make a combo with them. Super lazy WF here.
I guess main reason why I don't use them coz I cannot make a combo with them. Super lazy WF here.
Xeryn- Posts : 11
Join date : 2010-01-20
Location : KL, MY
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Xeryn wrote:I have all 3 79 skills on my WF, and all of them i rarely use. Stilled I used at belial and last boss 3-3 before... i rarely go fox form nowadays so i don't use the fox rainbow much, and only on rare occasion when I remember to use it for human rainbow.
I guess main reason why I don't use them coz I cannot make a combo with them. Super lazy WF here.
I use fox form rainbow parasite, usually when helping on bosses - I go to fox form to amp and do amp and rainbow, then back to human to use my attack combo. If you're going to fox to use amp at all it's easy to do amp/rainbow at pretty much the same time. I don't have rainbow for human form because it made more sense to me to do it when I'm doing amp anyway.
I have stilled but I used it a couple times, mostly to test it out. Personally I don't see a lot of value in it but maybe under certain circumstances it would be useful. I see stilled as "nice to have" but definitely not a necessity.
Jezebel~- Posts : 718
Join date : 2008-11-03
Age : 60
Location : Minnesota (USA)
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
i started to feel WF is boring haha.. i would prefer EA but i've never play any EA before too and no chance to try it
jenny- Posts : 62
Join date : 2010-01-16
Location : malaysia
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
I just feel that WF is just too many in the servers, and not much slot for mine to do anything much. Mostly on EA or EP nowadays so I don't get bored with the game. My WF is just used to solo FB/HH or helping out with bosses.
Xeryn- Posts : 11
Join date : 2010-01-20
Location : KL, MY
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
I Like my WF... seems to be more useful in a pt compared to my MG. Nobody wants to party me for my MG so I kinda Gave up on her...
Quite surprised to see so many high level mages around though... I thought it'll be hard for them to level up to level 100... Really surprised... possibly they have a lot of cash to spend on Heiros and good armour...
Quite surprised to see so many high level mages around though... I thought it'll be hard for them to level up to level 100... Really surprised... possibly they have a lot of cash to spend on Heiros and good armour...
Tequila- Posts : 664
Join date : 2010-01-12
Age : 36
Location : Adelaide and Singapore and Malaysia
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
I like MG in a party if they're what I consider "good" - and actually I feel the same about EAs. To me as an EP, good = don't steal agro and then die in 1 or 2 hits. If a MG/EA steals agro I'll try my best to heal them but depending on the situation and on lag, sometimes I just can't save them. I've been in party with some MG/EAs who do this all the time.... it gets frustrating and makes me feel like a bad EP but I know it's more because of their build or their eq or something, because it only happens with some MG/EAs.
As far as WF, I think there's always a place for a WF in a pt because they're the pro lurers, and they have Amp Maim and other good skills that are useful. I guess it just depends on the party whether or not they appreciate having a WF there.
As far as WF, I think there's always a place for a WF in a pt because they're the pro lurers, and they have Amp Maim and other good skills that are useful. I guess it just depends on the party whether or not they appreciate having a WF there.
Jezebel~- Posts : 718
Join date : 2008-11-03
Age : 60
Location : Minnesota (USA)
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
or Jez if we don't need you to tank and heal-which would be nice if you didn't have to do both that way we can see if you want to bring your wf
Baalorn- Posts : 1420
Join date : 2009-07-07
Age : 31
Location : Baator
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
Last time I was tanking most of the time (my party member purposely get me a hercules for that reason), so I don't get to amp much and stuff. And nowadays I seriously always forgot to bramble tanker or amp the boss. But since I basically get everything for the WF (except 99 fullset) so I don't use her much. Too many WF around anyways so my WF is not gonna be missed
I rarely have MG in party, but never turn down any if there is slot free for them. The only time that we have MG all the time is when my ingame hubby is active, he's always in our party.
I rarely have MG in party, but never turn down any if there is slot free for them. The only time that we have MG all the time is when my ingame hubby is active, he's always in our party.
Xeryn- Posts : 11
Join date : 2010-01-20
Location : KL, MY
Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
You always need a WR in party
pkker- Posts : 345
Join date : 2009-05-24
Age : 34
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Re: HOLY WF OR DARK WF WHY?
then finish your school and join more runs
Baalorn- Posts : 1420
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Age : 31
Location : Baator
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